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Pet Peeves: Manners and Mindfulness Podcast
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In this episode of the EMS Show, Erik and Matt talk about their pet peeves. Seems like the world has lost its manners. When you work in close environments, it's important to be mindful of those you work with. Getting along with your crew or coworkers is a big part of the EMS world.
When you have somebody who is not cognizant about other people, that can be hard. Hard to deal with for 24-48 hours.
SPEAKER_03The culture, anyway, with our team was to come in a little bit early to get sign out, right? Don't come in right at the dot of seven o'clock.
SPEAKER_00You are listening to EMS with your hosts, Eric Xee and Matt Ball.
SPEAKER_03Again. Yeah, you know, there seems to be less etiquette, less, you know, polite. I mean, it's just there's a certain way of doing things that's correct or manners and mindfulness.
SPEAKER_02Yes, the top the the the title of our podcast. Thank you, Devin. You're coming up with a great title.
SPEAKER_03Yeah, I think there's a lot to discuss here, and I think I I think that this is appropriate to um you know, the we're all like you've we talked about it.
SPEAKER_02We're in teams, whether you're in the ER as a team or the fire station or yeah, the private ambulance, you know, what you know, if you're at an airbase and you're you got your little living space together waiting for your call. And it's more, you know, especially in EMS and like fire, um, is very unique because not only are we working very closely together like you guys are in the ER, but we're like living together. I mean, we're for 24 or 48 hour stents, we're you know, working out together, we're watching TV together, we're training together, we're going to the store together, we're cooking together, we're eating together, we're all these things, right? And so when you have somebody who is not cognizant about other people, that can be hard. Hard to deal with for 24, 48 hours.
SPEAKER_03And it's it's different too. Like I don't think we're talking about I mean some of this plays in, but you know, like you and I, we're very different, right? You know, we whereas you might be one to make a list to make sure you you know go through your stuff. I don't do lists. Uh I'm a little maybe a little more you're gonna be more planned and prepared, maybe, whereas I will maybe come up with a weird idea and you know be more spontaneous. Yeah. It's not that they're either one's better or worse, it's just they're just different. We're not really talking about that kind of stuff. We're talking about, you know, it's just polite to do this, uh and why are you doing that?
SPEAKER_02Well, to your point though, the way that I am and the way that you are, we both are respectful of how each other are. And so sometimes when you have some spontaneous idea, maybe I hadn't planned on that, but I'm like, well, you know what? Eric likes to be spontaneous, like, okay, let's go do that.
SPEAKER_03The world record thing.
SPEAKER_02Like the world record thing, several, you know, I mean, whatever it is. And then other times, you've been respectful of me. Like, okay, yeah, Matt likes lists, he likes that's the way his brain works, right? So even though we have different ways of maybe viewing the world or thinking, we're still respectful. Yeah, as friends. Exactly. And that's what's important around, especially in these jobs where you're living together and you're in close quarters together a lot. Yeah, it's really important to be respectful. And I just feel like society as a whole has lost a lot of general manners for each other and respectfulness for each other.
SPEAKER_03Yeah. No, I I I I I agree, and I think that's why this is gonna be fun. And and I I hope that people will leave a comment or two because it'd be interesting if there's something else that we didn't think of that we could do in our next podcast. That'd be kind of fun.
SPEAKER_02Some pet peeves, like we've talked about pet peeves. You know, what are some things around the station or at your workplace that just drive you bonkers? And do you kind of acknowledge, like, I know it's kind of stupid, but you know, when somebody does this, it drives me crazy, right? Yeah, definitely leave a comment uh to give us some more material. That'd be an interesting discussion.
SPEAKER_03I'm gonna start off with one. My wife and I have this discussion all the time. She's a dentist, and she and I have a totally different perspective on flossing.
SPEAKER_02Oh, yeah, we've talked about this. She is an interesting she is an interesting perspective.
SPEAKER_03She is, she does. I love her.
SPEAKER_02Well, so most people right now, if you're listening to the podcast, do you floss before or after you brush? So just think about that question.
SPEAKER_03Yeah. A lot of us are thinking, I don't floss. Yeah, do you floss at all? Deborah's gonna come to your house again. Uh yeah, so I floss every day and I floss first. Yeah. To me, it's kind of like you get the big debris out first. It's the gross decon. Yeah, and then you brush. You're getting the big stuff out. Yeah. You know, that that makes sense to me. Yes. Well, I uh because my wife is so smart and she's a dentist, I kind of think She probably knows better. She probably knows better, but I don't think she does. Dog ass. No, I'm sleeping on the couch tonight. Uh but she'll she she believes the the flossing last makes more sense.
SPEAKER_02Does she has she ever said that is there a like medical reason why you floss last?
SPEAKER_03Um yeah. So uh well we we've talked about it, and uh by um by brushing first, she believes that you're getting everything out of the way. So when you floss, you're not just jamming stuff in. Okay.
SPEAKER_02So you know, you at least there's a mindfulness to her craziness. I mean to her thought process.
SPEAKER_03That's right. No, I think uh but but I'm curious because I think you and I agree we floss first. Floss first.
SPEAKER_02Yeah, I look at, like I say, literally like gross decon.
SPEAKER_03Yeah.
SPEAKER_02Like you go, you know, you brush stuff off, the the heavy stuff off first, and then you hose it off and do the more fine stuff.
SPEAKER_03Yeah, absolutely. I do dishes the same way, right? You get all the you scrape off the stuff in the garbage.
SPEAKER_01Oh, yeah.
SPEAKER_02Like you don't even hose it off. We used to have a guy that worked in my other department was like, hey bro, there's not some little man in the dishwasher that's gonna come by there.
SPEAKER_03Yeah. What really gets me with dishes is when the person, like if I've cooked a meal.
SPEAKER_02Oh yeah.
SPEAKER_03Right, I th I feel like I I shouldn't have to do dishes. Well, that's even though I'd be willing to, because I just kind of there's something about me that I just love dishes. The Thanksgiving, doing dishes is my favorite thing. I I've always done it this way. My brother-in-law and I, no, we will get and we will do all the dishes. We got an assembly line, we have the system together. It's almost like a a weird uh kind of something we look forward to.
SPEAKER_02We get instant gratification from it, right?
SPEAKER_03You work and everything's cleaned up and now it's yeah, it's cleaned up and the you know kind of a way to honor all the cooks.
SPEAKER_02But that's kind of a rule at the fire station, though. Uh it's good. It should be, yeah. Well, but if you're if you cook, you don't clean.
SPEAKER_03That's good.
SPEAKER_02You know, if you prepare now, again, I mean, if you kind of have if the whole crew's kind of helping cook, right, then the whole crew kind of cleans up. But if you're kind of the main guy cooking or you created the, you know, you you came in with that idea to cook whatever that night, um, at least the firehouses that I've been at, like if you cook the meal, you don't clean the dishes. Now you might go mop or do your nightly cleanup, but you're not doing dishes, right? And then vice versa, if you didn't cook, then you should be cleaning up, you know. That's again back to respect thing, right?
SPEAKER_03Back to the flossing. Uh, I think I think it was Doc Holiday in Tombstone that said, My hypocrisy knows no bounds, or something. Doesn't he say that, or something like that? Or I'm sure something like that. Yeah, yeah. You I have to point out some hypocrisy in my friend here because the rationale for flossing and brushing, you completely do not live that out with the way you do your yard. Oh, see, I can't so to me the edging is like flossing. All right.
SPEAKER_02First off, we need to ask the audience do you edge first or mow first? So put those comments in because I want to know. We don't agree on this. No, we do not. You're a psychopath.
SPEAKER_03But I think I understand why you do. We'll get to that later. But you know, if you if you mow first and then edge, you're gonna have grass all over the place. That's why you have a blower. Well, I don't use a blower.
SPEAKER_02Well, so but see, this is where we came down to the point where that's the difference is that you don't have a blower to finish and clean everything at the end.
SPEAKER_03And I don't know why you'd do the third step if you don't have to, because if you edge first and then mow, the mower sucks all that stuff up like a vacuum.
SPEAKER_02I mow when I go and I turn around in my driveway, it throws grass all over my driveway.
SPEAKER_03Oh, see, no, I I suck it up with cleaner. It's like the the the lawn. Do you bag your clippings? Yeah.
SPEAKER_02Oh, that's the difference. I don't bag.
SPEAKER_03Oh, yeah, I bag. Oh, yeah, no, that's bad for your lawn to leave that.
SPEAKER_02Oh, see, I always thought it was good for your lawn to let it go.
SPEAKER_03No, no. Terrible for your lawn.
SPEAKER_02Oh, well, that's probably what my.
SPEAKER_03Just kidding, I don't know. I always thought it was good.
SPEAKER_02Because I'd just do the recycler mower where it just chops it up and leaves it. Yeah, no. Bagging? I don't want to bag, and every two, three lines I've got to carry the bag and put it in a bottle.
SPEAKER_03Well, that makes it hard, especially. No, that takes me three and a half hours to mow my lawn. Because I bag it and the the dang bag, this is a pet peeve of mine. I have never been able to find a lawn mower that has an adequate chute that doesn't get jammed in. Oh, yeah. That's why I don't bag.
SPEAKER_02Use the recycler, bro.
SPEAKER_03Well, I've I've easily the reason I don't use the dang recycler, because I would love to take the easy route. Roud?
SPEAKER_02Yeah, but you like doing mowing. I'm not a mower.
SPEAKER_03I love mowing.
SPEAKER_02Yeah, see, my wife actually loves to mow.
SPEAKER_03Okay.
SPEAKER_02I do not like mowing.
SPEAKER_03Well, here's the reason why I don't do the recycler. And I wish I could, honestly, because it would save me so much time. And to me, it doesn't really matter too much. But uh when you have a dog that's out in the backyard and it comes into the house, it brings all the it gets stuck in the house.
SPEAKER_02But again, you so with edging first, though, the reason why I edge after I mow is I will use the mower to get like all the big stuff, right? And then, and Devin and I, we kind of agreed on this, is that then you come back with the trimmer because then you get everything that the mower didn't get. Where if you start with trimming, what if you get to a place with the mower and oh well I know what the mower can't get.
SPEAKER_03So I know my life is.
SPEAKER_02We did this survey in Rapid City. I know what I'm thinking my Rapid City brothers.
SPEAKER_03Everybody was like, You had a couple of people.
SPEAKER_02There was a couple of people there. Yeah, there was two or three people. I don't remember that. I just felt like everybody. The rest of the normal people in the class.
SPEAKER_03And I continue. I will still I will still edge first.
SPEAKER_02Well, it makes a little bit more sense that you bag. Because like I say, it doesn't when I mow, I'm still throwing grass all over my driveway.
SPEAKER_03I I see I would and then I would want to use my blower. Yeah, I get it. Okay, well that's good. Well, that's not very important, really. Those just quirky quick yeah, quirky things.
SPEAKER_02But yeah, no, I mean, but and we've got different topics that we're gonna talk about. And like around the firehouse, um and you can talk to like the ER thing, but like, you know, like food. Yeah, you know, like cooking and cleaning. We've already talked a little bit about cleaning. You know, some people uh maybe don't know, but as firefighters we go in and we put money into our food kitty, right? And then we run to the store every day. Well, you'll get that guy that's on a diet.
SPEAKER_01Yeah.
SPEAKER_02And then he just decides, like, well, I'm not I'm not putting in the kitty because I'm bringing in my own food. And it's like, like, okay, like I respect the fact that you're like on being on a diet, you know, and you're trying to be healthy, but you're also kind of screwing over the whole crew because now we're down ten or twenty bucks or whatever the buy-in is for the shift.
SPEAKER_03No, when you put in it's for the whole tour, which could be forty-eight hours, right? So you're gonna be eating something probably.
SPEAKER_02Well, no, a lot of guys, I mean, I know there's a lot of guys, you know, whether they're big fitness guys or they're just big into nutrition, that they will bring in a cooler of food for all their their meals for that 48-hour shift.
SPEAKER_01Okay.
SPEAKER_02Um But yeah, and that but that's the other thing, is that some of them will bring in some food, but then they get hungry and they don't have any food left. And so then they want to go and they want to get chips out of the pantry, or they want to get some milk, or they want to get oh, I'm just gonna use a couple eggs, and it's like, no, dude, you didn't put into the kitty. You know, you you didn't do that. So why should you go eat our food?
SPEAKER_03I suppose that if if I was gonna do some alternate diet plan and I didn't put money into the kitty, but I was bringing all my food in in a cooler, um, I think that sounds like it would be okay to me, just logically, but I hear what you're saying where uh it kind of makes things inconvenient for folks. Um I think I think it'd be really bad if I started eating the food too.
SPEAKER_02Oh, yeah, and I've had it both ways. I've had guys that I've worked with on a crew that they wanted to eat better and but they kept putting in the kitty because they were respectful and mindful, so to speak, of the crew. Like, hey, I don't want to kind of screw you guys on your food kitty. And so I'll continue to put in money, but I'm gonna bring in my own food, you know, or maybe I'll have breakfast because you guys are having eggs, I'll just kind of keep just some eggs and I won't have the pancakes or whatever.
SPEAKER_03Put in the full 10, 15 bucks, whatever.
SPEAKER_02Right, exactly. And then I've had it the other side where they take their money out and then they're just totally inconvenient, you know, and it it's and you can totally tell the two different types of people. You know, it's they're just not respectful of other people's time and all the other things, you know. And oh, I forgot my food today, so I'm in. Well, did you put in on the kitty? And then it makes it awkward for us because then we're having to ask, Well, hey, did he put it in today? He's eating our food, you know. Yeah.
SPEAKER_03When I work in when I work in the ER, I I don't eat. Uh and uh it's a pet peeve of mine sometimes when somebody's like, I'm gonna take a break, or I'm gonna go well, I was a nocturnist too, so it's a little bit different. I didn't work with a lot of other people. I was usually by myself, but um not really uh eating a lot on shift. My pet peeves were typically for and I think you've probably experienced some of this too, is the shift change. That ER doc that would come in like right at the dot of whatever time or a couple minutes late. Whereas most of us, the culture anyway, with our team was to come in a little bit early to get sign out, right? Don't come in right at the dot of seven o'clock. Um or if um if you're gonna be late, I mean gosh, if you're gonna be late, that's terrible.
SPEAKER_04Yeah.
SPEAKER_03But things happen with traffic or whatever, you call ahead. Yes. Um but when you're perpetually late, oh that that's a big pet peeve of mine. It's a disrespect issue.
SPEAKER_02And it's always funny. You tell me that this is the same in the doctor world. The same one that's the last one to show up to work is usually the last the first one that wants to leave. Yeah, it's the same at the fire station.
SPEAKER_01Yeah.
SPEAKER_02That guy that shows up, you know, a minute before shift change or right at shift change, you know, he comes screeching in the parking lot.
SPEAKER_01Yeah.
SPEAKER_02And it's even different for us because like our shift change was at 6 30 a.m. Yeah right. So let's say you get a call on the medic at 6 15. Well, that's gonna be an hour, right? By the time we run the call, if we're transporting, you know, it's gonna be at least an hour, and now I've got a report to do, right? And you couldn't show up 30 minutes early. So I would always show up very early. And I used to like to go in early and get a workout in, but I would always show up early and I always encourage new people. I can't tell you, I can't force you to show up before 6 30, but I'm telling you just like it's one of those unwritten cultural tools that you show up and you show the offgoing shift respect by showing up that way. If you get a call at 6 a.m., it's a nice feeling when that to when the tones drop at 6 a.m. You walk out, hey, I got you covered on the medic, I got you on the engine, like, oh thank goodness, you know. I gotta get my kids to school or whatever it is, right? Now, because this guy doesn't want to show up on time, crap, now I've got my kids are gonna be late.
SPEAKER_03Like, yeah, yeah. I th I think there's you said it, it's culture. Uh I think for me, uh I remember a time when I had a tough night shift, uh 10 hour night shift, and then in the morning, just before my help was coming in, I heard it in the I heard it coming over the radio that we had a bus accident. So there's gonna be a bunch of kids coming in. See you later. Yeah, it's like I can't leave. Yeah. And I don't want to leave because the culture of our team was to stay and help until it's you know, there's there's certain situations where you stay around and and be there. Do the right thing. But when you're the only one at the firehouse coming in early to help out with a 615 call, that can be that can be frustrating.
SPEAKER_02Well, and it and and typically like those guys, the guys that would do that, you could tell that they were just kind of those they just were kind of the negative person on the shift. Just like they they probably didn't, they weren't really good at their job. Yeah, you know, they didn't take their job very seriously. They just didn't care.
SPEAKER_03You know, and it was just it it was a indicator of how they were gonna be in the future on their probably the people on the airplane that gonna slam their chair back into you or or they're gonna be the one that's sitting behind you that as soon as they take their seatbelt off, they're walking forward. And to me, that you know, there's a culture where you wait for the people in front of you to deplane, right? You don't you don't uh you don't cut in front.
SPEAKER_02There's an order to things. Yeah. Right? There's a natural order to things. And there's out you know, like we talked about if if you have to catch another flight and you've got ten minutes to run across the terminal. Like, say, if you're in the back of the plane, hey, everybody, I'm sorry. Would I would you mind if I cut through? I have got to catch a connecting flight. Could I please absolutely go ahead. Yeah, I've got I'm I'm in no hurry. Please go. I'll be more than happy to let you go. But it's that lady, the Karen, who just I'm more important than 200 other people on the plane, and I need to get off first. Well, you sit back down, Karen, because I'm not moving, because you're rude, you know.
SPEAKER_03Or that person that uh apologies to anybody named Karen. Or the uh I it's funny when when you get up and and it's uh uh we have these things at the airport out here at DFW where you gotta wait in the toll lines.
SPEAKER_01Oh yeah.
SPEAKER_03Yeah, and sometimes there's probably legitimate malfunction of their toll tag or whatever.
SPEAKER_02I've had those.
SPEAKER_03Or they go to the toll only and they they're trying to use their credit card or whatever.
SPEAKER_02Because they didn't pay attention.
SPEAKER_03Yeah.
SPEAKER_02My wife would laugh. She's laughing right now because that's my thing. Nobody pays attention anymore.
SPEAKER_03Yeah. It's that that can be frustrating. I think lines can be frustrating. I was in line recently at a a coffee shop at the airport, and the person behind me had no comfort bubble. I mean, she was in contact with me.
SPEAKER_02Oh, she in your personal space.
SPEAKER_03Oh yeah. Yeah. I mean, uh, I'm a pretty easygoing person, but there's a lot of you're standing in line, you you give a little bit of room, right? No, and I can feel your bosom myself. I was in contact with her. Yeah, no. It was weird. And I I kept trying to step forward, but I didn't want to bump into the person in front of me. But anytime I would move, she would move right there. It was Really? It was weird. Yeah, I don't know. I'd never uh that but the it uh the lines in in uh when you're driving too, right?
SPEAKER_02I mean uh Oh, don't get me started.
SPEAKER_03Yeah, the there's a a culture there. Uh we guess we can get to cars now if you want, or we could talk stores, lines walk in.
SPEAKER_02No, I think a traffic is a good I traffic is probably my biggest uh test of patience. Yeah. Because and my wife will attest to this because I get so frustrated in traffic because people just well, first off, they're on their cell phones, which we'll get to that. But that's the big thing I think is that they're on their cell phones, right? You're sitting at the red light and you've been waiting because there's 5,000 traffic lights and 10,000 more people on the road here in North Texas every single day, right? So I've waited 30 minutes to get to this traffic light. The light turned green, and old whistle bridge is sitting in front of me, is looking at TikTok on his phone, not paying attention to the light. Now I'm gonna miss it because he wants to not pay attention. Oh, see, you can that's why I do like riding the Harley because I can just and zip right through there. But yeah.
SPEAKER_03On my way home, there's a an area where I I have uh a two-lane road that goes to one lane. So just beyond a light, right? So you could be at the front of the line and I'm gunning it. Yeah, and and if I sometimes I'll just because I'm not in a rush, I'll just see what the other person does, and if they're going super slow, I'll step on it and go. Oh no, I always and if they are being Mario Andretti, I'm happy to pull in behind them. I'm not gonna fight them over it, yeah. No, but then the guy behind him though decides not to fall in line with the culture and he doesn't want to let me in. Like, whoa, wait, whoa, hold on a second here. There's an award. I think I get frustrated when people just don't follow the rules of just general culture stuff.
SPEAKER_02Well, it's respect. Yeah. It's I mean it is, it's manners. It's oh, he let that guy go in front of him, so I'll let him go in front of me, then I'll go behind him. Manners and mindfulness. And you know what? That here's the catcher with that that I think about all the time. If people that are so because they think that what they have to do is more, I'm more important than everybody else on the road, right? And I I should be first because I'm more important to get home and play my video games, or because it's always some guy driving a junky car that probably doesn't, you know, he's not going to work more than likely, you know.
SPEAKER_03He's probably gotta get home to play my video games.
SPEAKER_02Gotta go home, yeah, exactly. You know, but it but if the if everybody would just follow the natural order, everybody would be it would be a lot more efficient.
SPEAKER_03It would be.
SPEAKER_02But no, you got this guy trying to cut off that guy, and that guy trying to cut off this guy, and now everybody that's trying to be polite is delayed because these two idiots.
SPEAKER_03Yeah. Or at the grocery store, you're waiting in line, and another line opens up. The person that goes to the new line is the one that's next.
SPEAKER_02A hundred percent. No, the guy behind me runs up to get in there. Oh no, that guy gets body checked. See, that's why sometimes I wished I was your size, because I'd be body checking people out.
SPEAKER_03I'll turn to the guy the guy in front of me who should have gone, right? He sees the guy behind me, go take it. He's looking at me. I'm looking at him, I'm like, but you know what though? Some of the thing that's good is just to like look at each other and say, you know what, we're doing the right thing, bro. Give me, you know, and it's yeah, and then you just give that guy the look like you're a total jerk. But the the frustrating thing to me, too, sometimes, and I do this less, but I get so worked up sometimes and I realize, you know what?
SPEAKER_02It doesn't, yeah.
SPEAKER_03This guy's being an idiot. Yep. And I'm the one that's probably decreased his lifespan because I get so frustrated with people not doing the right thing. Yeah, exactly. Whether it's a line or a merge situation, all of these things.
SPEAKER_02Being on a plane, yeah. It's and that's what I tell myself too. And you know, here's what's funny, too. Like you talk about the natural order of traffic. I just want to put out this PSA. The left lane is for people driving over the speed limit.
SPEAKER_01Yes.
SPEAKER_02If you are not driving at least, and here in Texas, if you're not driving at least 10 over the speed limit, you better get out of the left-hand lane on 3575. You are good. If you're not doing 80, and sorry, police officers, but if you are not doing 80 miles an hour on 35, you're getting run over.
SPEAKER_03You are.
SPEAKER_02But my wife always says, well, maybe it's some old lady. Then get in the right lane, old lady. Go to the right lane. Go to the far right lane and drive at 50. That's fine. But let's have a natural order of things, right? Middle lanes are on the left. Yes. Pass on the left. Do not park in the right hand. And that's oh it drives me crazy. Parking. Well, no, but they're in the left-hand lane on their cell phone going ten miles an hour.
SPEAKER_03Oh yeah. Now I have to admit, I think I frustrated you guys a little bit on our world record trip because I don't know. Yeah. When I was driving the 72 Cadillac, didn't have cruise control. I I have a I get so distracted in a conversation that I would go way too fast or way too slow.
SPEAKER_02Oh yeah, you're not steady.
SPEAKER_03Yeah, I'm not. And I think I know a couple people told me they're because we had four chase vehicles with us. We have four. We had the van, the SUV, the ambulance. Oh, it was just three then.
SPEAKER_02We had the three, the ambulance, and what's his name's truck? Yeah, maybe just three.
SPEAKER_03Three, yeah. So we have four vehicles, I guess. Uh yeah, that was interesting. So uh driving though, it um I'm sure I I'm confessing in our most recent trip to Sturgis, I jumped that railroad crossing uh at midnight.
SPEAKER_02At midnight. In an RV, pulling a trailer. Oh, I hope they don't see this. 70. I didn't see any signs. And then we drive back. Oh, look at that. There's 47 signs that say slow down railroad tracks ahead. Oh, lead foot in Xene.
SPEAKER_03It's funny.
SPEAKER_02I literally thought the RV broke in half.
SPEAKER_03Yeah.
SPEAKER_02Because we were all kind of dozing at that point. You know, we're all talking all of a sudden, woman, what did we do? We just run over a car.
SPEAKER_03Oh, that was funny. Well, that's okay. But parking, though, it's this is another thing that just really gets me. It's like you're waiting for a spot, right? I don't know. You got your blinker on, yeah. Person person comes comes out, yeah, and then somebody else whips in in front.
SPEAKER_02That's a fist fight.
SPEAKER_03Yeah, that's uh to me, like that to me. What world do you come from where you think that is acceptable?
SPEAKER_02There was just where was it? I just saw some little news article. It was in Florida, where uh and I think I want to say it was at a Walmart or at a grocery store. Anyway, uh over a parking spot, uh lady and a guy get into an argument, he gets out of his car and is like being aggressive, intimidating. She pulls out a gun and shoots him and kills him.
SPEAKER_03Oh my gosh.
SPEAKER_02And they upheld, they didn't file charges on her. They said she had standard ground law. She had every right. He was coming at her car. You got no idea what he's gonna do. And she pulls out a gun and shoots him and kills him all over the parking spot. I thought, okay, I agree with the standard ground law, but oh my god, we're killing people over a parking spot. That's why, which's funny, is that when I go to park, I just park in the back.
SPEAKER_03Yeah, I don't park better for your health. Yeah, you can walk.
SPEAKER_02Yeah, I don't look for the close-up spot. I don't want people hitting my nice truck.
SPEAKER_03Yeah.
SPEAKER_02So I just park in the back, and I know I can get in and out faster. Yeah, but in traffic, it's it's uh for those of you who have not who don't live in Texas, it is uh it's it's like the Autobahn around here, and it is it is killer be killed on some of these highways around here.
SPEAKER_03And they're not small vehicles typically, right?
SPEAKER_02No, it's the F-350. Yeah, he's he's running 90, yeah. Uh, and he's coming up on you, and he ain't budging.
SPEAKER_03He's not gonna wait.
SPEAKER_02That's why a lot of people like they're like, you're crazy for driving a motorcycle in this traffic.
SPEAKER_03Well, I mean, uh I'm gonna defend my my fellow Texan here in the big truck or whatever, any car really, yeah. Is I think that overall, compared to what I've seen in other states, um we do a lot of traveling, and I've lived in several states.
SPEAKER_02I would have gave everywhere.
SPEAKER_03But here in Texas, so I really feel like even though they're fast and and aggressive, they d they kind of follow the rules typically. More so than I think other places.
SPEAKER_04Yes.
SPEAKER_03Uh then that's been something I've enjoyed. Uh, is that, you know, when you need help or uh there's a you come to an intersection, people are pretty respectful to Well, the problem is now we have so many people that aren't from Texas area and stuff that have moved here. No, it's frustrating. You see it at the stores. Uh you could tell if somebody's not from this area where you know, when you're walking down an aisle, staying toward the right is kind of the typical pattern.
SPEAKER_02Traffic pattern.
SPEAKER_03Yeah, it's like it's just the way we do it. And and if you're coming out of an aisle, you kind of look ahead to see if anyone's coming.
SPEAKER_02And I had a lady almost crash right into me the other day at Walmart.
SPEAKER_03Yeah.
SPEAKER_02I'm walking down the main aisle, right? And so she's coming from a side street, right? Blind intersection. I've got the right of way. She comes flying out of this aisle like her hair's on fire. And luckily I saw her and she stopped, you know, and I mean she apologized, whatever. We've all and I was like, oh, that's okay. But I was just like, golly, lady, you could have what if some kid was walking?
SPEAKER_03Well, I think we'd all agree that the main thoroughfare between the line the you know, the aisles or whatever, those are that's the right of way. And when you're coming out of an aisle, you look and see that's the traffic. That's the normal culture, the way we would w work, right?
SPEAKER_02But their time is more important than your time. Yeah.
SPEAKER_03Well, there's that's uh that's just one of those things, I guess.
SPEAKER_02But it's very frustrating.
SPEAKER_03Uh I think uh in public when you're wanting to hold a door for someone.
SPEAKER_02Oh, that's yeah.
SPEAKER_03That that's kind of a friendly thing to do, I suppose. Or let's you know it's polite, courteous. Oh, you actually I remember clearly we were in we were in South Dakota up at Mount Rushmore and and uh there was um someone in a wheelchair coming towards the gift shop. Yeah. And you beat that person to the door to open it for them. It's kind of the nice thing to do. Absolutely. Because they can't open the door.
SPEAKER_02Well, the guy's pushing his dad in a wheelchair, right? He can't open the door and push his dad like Yeah, it's just being and I think this is the biggest thing. I my wife and I have this conversation all the time is that it's just like people are just oblivious to the other people around them. They think they're the only person on earth or the most important person on earth, and nobody else matters, and they just don't take into any consideration like, oh, maybe that person needs some help getting through like what does it take out of your day? It costs you nothing to be nice, right? What is it? It took two seconds to walk over and open a door, and you know, but I think a lot of this is because of our cell phones.
SPEAKER_03I think the advent of of the the cell phone and all the social media and the the uh uh all the different streaming services. I mean, so much of our time is now consumed on these phones. It's you're in your own little world, and you think about these kids that have grown up in this age. That's all they know. That's all they know. And I mean I when I see these two-year-olds on iPads in the restaurant, I feel bad for them because they just they lose some of the social cues. They don't learn that there is other people on the planet besides themselves, you know. I there's something about the social th interaction and community that we miss when we're stuck in this device. Yeah. Uh and uh anyway, but as far as phones go, I mean, we could talk about that f issue forever, but the phone etiquette though, man, you're you're you're on a plane or you're at the bank or you're yeah, whatever, and then someone's talking on speakerphone to someone. Like, come on, dude. Yeah, get off speakerphone. Yeah.
SPEAKER_01On full blast.
SPEAKER_03Yeah. Yeah. Like the whole plane's listening to you. Yeah. What's that?
SPEAKER_02Well, and like that's the other thing that drives me nuts is I'll be sitting there talking to somebody. Now, obviously, this there's like you get medcom calls, right? You have to take those calls.
SPEAKER_01Yeah.
SPEAKER_02Right. We might be in the middle of filming or we might be on a trip or something, or in the middle of you get a medcom call. Yeah. Hey, hang on. Like, I understand that, right? Same thing with me. Like, if I'm off and one of my guys calls me, like, and they're on shift, yeah. Hey, they might need something right now. Let me answer this call, right? But just the person that just answers that phone, like you said, is the most important thing, and they get a phone call. Oh, hang on a second.
SPEAKER_01Yeah.
SPEAKER_02I'm standing right in front of you. Like, can't you like I'll look at it, or maybe look at my watch. Like, I yeah, I don't need to take that call right now. You know, I can call them back, or that's a spam call.
SPEAKER_03Or you've been waiting in line for 30 minutes to get to the front to get your rental car, and then they get a phone call. And they, oh, yeah, we have an SUV. We have one left. It's yours.
SPEAKER_02Wait a minute. I've been waiting for an hour to get that one SUV.
SPEAKER_03I think it's uh it would be appropriate, like if you're in the middle of talking to a customer, it's like, I'm gonna put you on hold, I'm helping a customer that's standing in front of you.
SPEAKER_02Yeah.
SPEAKER_03You're still gonna be cutting in front of the guy behind you, but at least the culture. I to me that makes sense, I guess. I don't know. Maybe I'm wrong.
SPEAKER_02Or maybe have somebody else answer the phone.
SPEAKER_03Yeah. Yeah.
SPEAKER_02But I don't think it it's like a call center. Pay attention, rental car companies.
SPEAKER_03Or you're getting you're going through a McDonald's for drive-thru in the morning, right? And you're supposed to like loop around the restaurant to follow the arrows to get in to the drive-thru, and then somebody cuts right in front of you going the wrong way. Oh.
SPEAKER_01Yeah.
SPEAKER_03Those uh it's just rude. It's just uh it's there's an order to things, there's a way you do things. Yeah. Um, there's a way you talk on your phone, there's a way you stand in line, you take turns, respect other people.
SPEAKER_02Uh exactly. And that's the big thing, you know, is is having a little bit of respect and some mindfulness about hey, I'm not the only person in the world here.
SPEAKER_01Yeah.
SPEAKER_02Right? You know, maybe today I gotta get to work or whatever I gotta do, I need to get there quicker, but I'm not in a hurry. I'll let you off the plane or I'll let you in on traffic or whatever. Um but you know, speaking back to like the fire station and stuff, it's so interesting because we grew up in a non-cell phone, you know, because we're old, right? So we didn't grow up with cell phones all the time. I mean, obviously now. And honestly, my wife and I have had this conversation and she's kind of called me out justifiably so that, like, hey, you'll be sitting over there on your cell phone, like playing a game or whatever. Like, and I'm sitting over here, like, you know what, you're right. I should put down my phone and be present with my family, you know, and it's so easy to do that.
SPEAKER_01Yep.
SPEAKER_02Um so being mindful about let me put my phone down. I see it all the time. And now that you know we've kind of addressed that issue with each other and been better about it, now like it's so crazy to walk into a restaurant and you'll see a couple out to dinner and they're both in their phones, yeah. And everybody's just like, What did you go out to dinner for? You could have just looked at your phones in your room, like, what are you doing?
SPEAKER_03I don't know. It's it's just I I like it that you brought up the mindfulness part of it because the manners obviously seems to be eroding right now, at least out where here in Texas, it seems. Unfortunately. And I think it is everywhere, probably. But um the mindfulness though, in the midst of all that, we kind of talked about it earlier, where when you have that situation where you're frustrated, you don't let it bother you too much. Yeah. I know they're not doing the right thing, it's frustrating, but we gotta let it go. Yeah. Gotta let it go. It's you're gonna live longer. Oh yeah. And and you're you're not gonna go gray so fast. Yeah. Just let it just let it go.
SPEAKER_02Yeah, that's the hardest thing I have. I have a hard time doing that because it just I'll get so frustrated and angry at just the overall rudeness of people that it's just like, oh man.
SPEAKER_03You know who's really good at this is my wife. I wish I was as smart as she was. She like, well, somebody will cut up in front of line. I know, it totally invalidates everything I'm about to say. But uh, like somebody will cut in front, I'll get all worked up. It's like, no, that's not right. And she's like, you know what? There's probably an emergency at home. Her wife's his wife's probably giving birth right now or something, right? And and so sometimes giving somebody the benefit of the doubt is probably good. Yep, oh yeah. Because you're what's it really gonna do? They don't know. I mean, they're they're they're being an idiot, maybe, but maybe they're not. Yeah. And giving them the benefit of the doubt is probably good for your mindfulness and kind of just your blood pressure.
SPEAKER_02Well, I was gonna say, because as soon as you think that, like, uh, you know what, you're right, you immediately kind of calm down.
SPEAKER_01Yeah.
SPEAKER_02You know, where it's like, no, I don't care, and you're like ready to fight. Yeah, it's definitely and I was gonna say, I've like with driving, I have found there is a a mindset that when I'm in the left hand lane, we're going, baby. Like, I'm going as fast as we're going, and but and so like now I'm all like tense and worked up because I gotta keep pace and I gotta keep going, right? Where I have found myself, and I'm curious if you've noticed this, I will intentionally like go into the right-hand lane or the middle lane, right? And just cruise at 70 and just relax. And you know what? I get home in pretty much the same amount of time. And I'm so much less stressed when I walk, you know. Yeah, when I'm in the left-hand lane, I get home and I'm ready to just like I need a beer or something, right? When I'm in the right hand lane, I'm like, yeah, I just listened to some music or a podcast or whatever and chilled out.
SPEAKER_03And well, if Deborah was here, if my wife was here, my kids were here, yeah. They sometimes get frustrated with me because I'm either driving way too fast. Yeah, or they're like, Dad, slow down, take it easy. Or uh, Dad, the speed limit's 45, you're going 30.
SPEAKER_02Are you doing all of that in the left hand lane?
SPEAKER_03Probably. Oh, I do. No, no. No, it's like the just regular roads in surface streets or whatever. I uh sometimes I I'm so influenced by conversations. I'm so into what my daughter's saying, or I'm so into what my wife is saying, or the radio is controversial, and there's some podcasts that's getting me all worked up, and then I'm going 90. Uh no, those those things uh I think those things are frustrating. Let me ask you a question, Matt. Okay. So you're at a I was actually at an NFL football game with my family. Okay. I'm sitting with my son, who was probably around 10 at the time, and the guy behind me is just uh FS, F you, mother F or I mean that's just all just the worst language, right? I'm not I'm not saying listen, I get it. People swear. And and I'm not here to tell people to stop swearing or anything like that. But there's a limit. When you're there with your son, a 10-year-old, yes, and you're sitting right behind the ten-year-old. Yeah, we're not in a bar. It might be good to tone it down a little bit. Yes. Let me ask you a question, because I'll tell you what I did.
SPEAKER_04Yeah.
SPEAKER_03Um would you would you talk to the person and tell them to tone it down? Or would you um tolerate it? Would you avoid the conflict?
SPEAKER_02No. Uh no, I would politely for at first, I would turn around like, hey man, do you mind? I'm here with my son, here with my kids. Could you mind a little bit? Just maybe watch the language a little bit. That's how I would start it off.
SPEAKER_03That's exactly what I did. And the guy gets mad at me. Yeah. Well, anyway, it was so frustrating to me. That that kind of stuff. It's one thing for me in a car. I get a little frustrated when someone cuts you off or whatever. But when you're in person and they're hurting your kids, or whatever. It's uh this the the sense of justice is but again, like you know, that guy.
SPEAKER_02Like you're in a family uh environment. Well, like I said, we're not in a bar. You know, I didn't bring my 10-year-old into a into an adult arena where cussing is you know part of the deal, right? Yeah you're at a football game, you know, yeah, sure. Father son. Yeah, there's and and be mindful, like, oh, there's a kid right there. Oh, I've had that exact situation numerous times, whether it's you know in a movie or in a sport event or something. Yeah, with my daughters, like, hey man, you think you could, you know, tone it down a little bit, watch your mouth. Um but oh yeah, 100% I'm saying something. Yeah, I'm not just gonna sit there and let him continue on.
SPEAKER_03I have a strong sense of justice, but my trigger though to do something, it's gotta be egregious.
SPEAKER_02Yeah, like they could probably punch you in the face if you give them a hug and you wouldn't get that mad. If somebody look at Debora wrong, somebody's gonna get smacked. Yeah. She's a bulldog. No, I'm saying smacked by you. Oh, oh, yeah. Somebody messing with your children or your wife, yeah, you're gonna be a different side of Eric Axene.
SPEAKER_03Oh, absolutely. The older I get, the less I care about a life sentence. I will I will defend and I will I will go to town on some way.
SPEAKER_02Wasn't there an incident in your do you want to talk about the incident where somebody said something rude to your wife in your neighborhood and you chased them down?
SPEAKER_03Yeah, I'll tell you, here you go. So my wife is turning left on Mother's Day into our house.
SPEAKER_02And mind you, for the audience, your wife is like one of the sweetest, nicest, most gentle people you'd ever want to meet. Like anybody that would say anything bad about Deborah Axeine or rude to Deborah Axine deserves to get punched in the face. They absolutely do.
SPEAKER_03Well, on Mother's Day, too. And she's pregnant with our son. And I went to the grocery store. Oh no, sorry. She went to the grocery store. I am uh getting suited up to go on a jog on a Sunday afternoon with you know so you got your fight suit on. So I'm with the dog, and we had a boxer at the time, and I'm and uh anyway, uh so Deborah's coming home. I see her, you know, pulling left left blinker in. Well, this guy in a truck with a trailer with a bunch of lawn equipment passes my wife on the left and then out the window yells and flips her off and says something terrible. I'm not gonna repeat it here. Right. But when I heard I couldn't believe it, and I'm watching it and I'm seeing the guy do it.
unknownRage.
SPEAKER_03Oh, rage overcame me. I forest gumped it down that street without the dog. He wouldn't have been able to keep up. Seriously, I was like I f I followed that tri. I saw him turn, I knew where he was going. And anyway, I got up there and and uh that's where anyway got ugly. Uh and I said things I probably shouldn't have said, but I was so mad. I was so mad.
SPEAKER_01I'm gonna be honest, you should have.
SPEAKER_03Yeah, he's you can't talk to my wife that way, sir. You were totally in the wrong passing illegally. My wife anyway, I was so mad. I was so mad.
SPEAKER_02Yeah, um that's justified anger, I believe.
SPEAKER_03It's another situation and I was in San Francisco at the fisherman's wharf. I'm not gonna go into details because it's pretty graphic, but these uh two um um transients street street folks were going at it um uh on a uh kind of a park bench against a chain link fence kind of an area, and they were fighting or no guy and a girl making and they were and it was so uh v way beyond inappropriate. I mean they uh they must have been high. Or I mean I don't know what was going on, but it was in the middle of the day. All of my f my my kiddos, everybody's families. But the thing that frustrated me was nobody was standing up to go do something about this.
SPEAKER_02Nope.
SPEAKER_03And so uh that uh to me uh you have to do something. So I remember um a friend of mine and I, we both went up and took care of it, said something. We it is it was so inappropriate.
SPEAKER_02Uh you know, I am not a you know, you're a big physical presence guy, right? You know, somebody'd be pretty stupid to one of the. No, but I am not, I mean, I am in no way, shape, or form some, you know, I'm not physically intimidating anybody, right? Well, I was uh this is a long time ago, but uh I was uh dating a girl who lived in Chicago. I was going to meet her and my parents, I think it was Mother's Day or somebody's birthday or whatever. Anyway, I'm in downtown Chicago and I'm driving to this location. I'm sitting, it's like springtime, so I've got my windows down in my little Chevy S 10, right? And I'm sitting at a stoplight in downtown Chicago, all of a sudden I hear this crash and this noise. I'm like, look out, what's going on? And I see this guy, I see this glass had broke at a gas station, the glass door had broke, and I see a guy running out with a bag. And I'm like, you know, Mr. Justice guy looking back was totally stupid. And I'm like, I'm gonna get him. So I whip my truck around and I go driving, and then I see somebody running from the gas station or uh chasing after the guy. So I pull up, this guy, I see this guy kind of cross the street, I stop my truck, I get out, and this guy runs up between two houses, and in Chicago and a lot of places, the driveways will be right next to each other, and then they'll have like a chain-link fence, right? And then the house is on the outside of the driveway. Well, he runs in there holding the bag, I run up, and then the other guy runs up behind him. He gets up to the fence, he's gonna go jump this fence. Well, these two big dogs come from either side of the fence. Well, he ain't jumping over that fence because there's no mercy on the other side of that fence, right? So he stops and he gets down, and it's at this point I can see he's holding a purse. He has grabbed somebody's purse, and now I'm kind of putting two together that this guy that's with me is the husband of the lady whose purse this guy has grabbed in the gas station.
SPEAKER_01Yeah.
SPEAKER_02And so I'm like, okay, and so I'm like, he's he's kind of looking at us, you know, and we're kind of standing there, and I'm like, just put the purse down, dude. Just put the purse down and get out of here. Just put the purse down. And he's rummaging through the purse, you know, and the other guy's yelling. So this happen all happens very, very fast. And at one point he sticks his hand in his jacket and he's like, I'll kill you, I'll shoot you. And I'm I'm kind of thinking, like, you ain't got a gun, because if you had a gun, you'd pull it out. Right. Well, while this is going on, all of a sudden I see from down the street these three individuals who I'm like, I don't want to tangle with these guys. And they're coming up and one of them has a baseball bat. And I'm like, Oh God, is this guy with them? I'm about to get beat to a pulp or you know, whatever. And so these three gentlemen walk up and they're on our side.
SPEAKER_01Oh, okay.
SPEAKER_02Which again, at the moment I did not know, and I thought, oh, this is about to get ugly real fast. Oh, and I take that back. The guy, right before I started seeing them, the guy makes a run for it, throws the purse down, makes a run for it. I kind of trip him and we kind of I kind of fall on top of him. And that's when I look up, and the three guys come walking down the street, and I'm thinking, oh gosh, this is like their family member or something, and they're coming to whip my butt. They come up and it's their neighborhood. And so they come up and they're mad because this guy is robbing women in the neighborhood that their mom or their family live in. And so they're like, You're lucky that guy's sitting on you, because if he wasn't, I'd be whooping your. And so, I mean, we were kind of telling them, like, okay, we got him, like, just don't kill him, you know. And then I don't know, somebody eventually called the police.
SPEAKER_01Yeah.
SPEAKER_02And, you know, a couple of Chicago squad cars came up and grabbed the guy, threw him down. Looking back, you know, I was a dumb 21-year-old kid just thinking I was, you know, Captain America. But uh it's pretty dumb. But yeah, my sense of justice is probably a little bit dumb at times.
SPEAKER_03I have a story to tell, very similar story. So this lady um had her purse stolen from her, and some guy went, grabbed her purse, and was running in a parking lot, and another guy saw this happen, and he went and chased him down, and he got him. And oh no, let me back up. Hold on a second. So he actually uh took it by gunpoint, shot her, the lady of the purse, she got shot several times.
SPEAKER_02The guy that stole a purse shot the purse. Oh my gosh.
SPEAKER_03And then this guy went to chase her down, to chase down the guy that stole the purse.
SPEAKER_02And shot the lady.
SPEAKER_03And shot the lady. He got shot, and he got shot once, but he got the purse.
SPEAKER_02Yeah, I'm not chasing after a guy that I know has a gun without a gun.
SPEAKER_03Yeah, well, he chased him down and he got shot. And I remember the so I wasn't there, obviously. Where was this at? This was in Los Angeles. Okay. And so I'm working in the ER where they they were brought. Both of them were brought. Oh, okay. And I remember looking at my colleague and we're like, okay, we got two gunshot wounds coming in. And and so it was kind of my turn to choose. So I said, well, I'll take the one with more gunshot wounds.
SPEAKER_02Okay.
SPEAKER_03More likely to have something to do, and more life-saving intervention potential, right? Right. Which is what we trained for. It's not like you want someone to die, but anyway. And so he so I took the girl, had multiple gunshot wounds. Well, none of the gunshot wounds even penetrated the chest cavity. Are they all just subcutaneous, like throwing through? Uh I don't even know what kind of gun it was at the time, honestly, but but nothing to do. Absolutely nothing to do. And the guy that had one shot, the good Samaritan died. ED thoracotomy. I mean, he had massive injuries from one shot, gunshot wound. But I tell that story, it's like you gotta be careful when you're running after these folks. Yeah. The guy that the good Samaritan, and I remember I'll never forget the lady asked me, is he okay? And so we knew he wasn't okay. But then she had to be.
SPEAKER_02Yeah, I mean, over a purse, it's kind of dumb. It is, yeah.
SPEAKER_03But uh be careful, Matt.
SPEAKER_02I know. Well, now anyway.
SPEAKER_03But but listen though, if somebody's hurting my daughter or my wife, I'm not gonna think about it.
SPEAKER_02That's a different yeah, taking a purse is one thing. If I see somebody physically harming another person, like yeah, no, that's it's uh like I said, I'm not a big guy, I'm not at some intimidating buttons. And you would go to a whole new level of not going to stand there and watch that happen because that's that could be your daughter, that could be your wife, and you're not there. That could be my daughter, my wife, and I'm not there. Yeah, I would hope somebody would step in. We had this conversation when we were down with that detective last week.
SPEAKER_01Yep.
SPEAKER_02And it's like that's why I'm kind of happy one of my daughters gets to carry a gun for her job right now.
SPEAKER_03She can handle herself. Yeah, that's good.
SPEAKER_02But yeah, no, absolutely not. Yeah, there's limits to what I would step in on, but yeah, somebody hurting a guy, girl, doesn't matter, you know, fighting a police officer on the side of the road. Oh, I'm stopping. Yeah, I'm stopping all day long. Yeah. I because I just couldn't live with my conscience by allowing that to happen.
SPEAKER_03In the same way. Yeah. In the same way. But you've got to be careful.
SPEAKER_02Yep. But yeah, there's it just seems like there is a drop-off in manners. I was gonna say, we were talking about the fire station, kind of to circle back, that we have different generations, right? We we have guys that are in their late 50s, 60s that are still in the fire stations, you know, maybe getting ready to retire. And you've got maybe 18, 19, 20-year-old kids that are just now joining the fire service, right? Like you literally got grandpa and grandson or granddaughter in the fire station. And so be a little bit mindful of how that each one of us grew up, right? And respect each other's differences, yeah. You know, and and don't think that your way is the right way. Like the older guy, well, that kid with his cell phone, well, we've got technology as part of our job now. They could be very helpful with helping you learn how to use technology to your advantage.
SPEAKER_03That's a good point.
SPEAKER_02You know, and vice versa, you younger folks, like I don't know how many times I've had a firefighter come into the station on his first day of work or their first day of work, no idea how to make coffee. Yeah, no idea how to do laundry because they've never had to do it before. They have no idea how to like white starks, everything's going together. Like, no, no, no, no, no. No, we're gonna put the darks in. Well, why? And you explain that, right? How to make coffee. That's interesting. They'll just dump, you know, they'll put one scoop in, like, nope. Teaching them how to do that kind of stuff, right? And you can't get I mean, it ain't his fault that he's 18, 19 years old, or their fault that they're this young kid that got a job that quick. So you kind of pull them under your wing, don't get frustrated with them. And now, if I have to show you five times how to make coffee, now I'm gonna be a little frustrated.
SPEAKER_03But or when you're out cleaning the bay and they're on in the day room on their cell phone.
SPEAKER_02That's a problem. That's a big problem. Should be addressed. Yep, yep. Which brings up, you know, hard conversations. We kind of talked that's a separate topic, but yeah, but yeah, be be respectful, you know, when you're in these environments where you're working together, you're living together for 24, 48 hours, you know, be respectful of other people, be mindful of other people's space, and don't always be in your cell phone. You know, if you're a loud snorer, please go get CPAP. We had what, six of us go to Sturgis all on an RV? Six six dudes living in an RV for six days.
SPEAKER_03We all overloaded that circuit with our CPAP machines.
SPEAKER_02You guys did, yeah. Me and I guess, yeah. I won't get into that. No, I don't think everybody was on a CPAP but me. No, I think your friend from California, he doesn't have a CPA. No, he doesn't. No, I think him and I are the only two.
SPEAKER_03Yeah, only two.
SPEAKER_02Anyway.
SPEAKER_03Yeah, you guys snored like crazy.
SPEAKER_02I didn't snore, I don't snore at all.
SPEAKER_03Like an elephant.
SPEAKER_02Whatever.
SPEAKER_01Whatever.
SPEAKER_02Anyway, no, it is an interesting topic. I think it's uh definitely something that a lot of people probably have different perspectives on, but to some degree get frustrated with other people and their rudeness.
SPEAKER_03Bottom line, edge first, floss first. It should be like a uh a mantra.
SPEAKER_02I'll agree with the floss first. I think I'll go with Deborah and I I think Mo first and floss last. I'm gonna side with Deborah on this one.
SPEAKER_03Oh really?
SPEAKER_02Yeah, well, just because I'm not stupid. Yeah.
SPEAKER_03I still don't understand it, but uh it's funny.
SPEAKER_02Well, I thought this was an entertaining topic.
SPEAKER_03It's good, and I want to hear from people.
SPEAKER_02Yeah, please comment on it. Let us know what pet peeves you have.
SPEAKER_03It's just there's a wealth of things we could have talked about today.
SPEAKER_02So many things.
SPEAKER_03It'd be cool.
SPEAKER_02Cell phones in and of itself could be its own topic. Oh, yeah.
SPEAKER_03No, this is great. I'd love to hear more.
SPEAKER_02Well, see you on the next one.
SPEAKER_03Be safe out there.
SPEAKER_00Thank you for listening to EMS, the Eric and Matt Show.